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Wikidata is here!

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Hey everyone :)

As previously announced we have just enabled interwiki links via Wikidata for Wikisource. This means from now on you no longer have to maintain the links in the Wikitext but can maintain them together with the links for Wikipedia, Commons and Wikivoyage on Wikidata. You will still be able to keep them locally though if you want to. Local interwiki links will overwrite the ones from Wikidata. You do not yet have access to the other data on Wikidata like the date of birth of an author. That will come in a future deployment. I will let you know when I have a date for it.

If you have any questions d:Wikidata:Wikisource is a good first step. It also has a list of people familiar with both Wikisource and Wikidata who are able to help you out. That is also a good place for any issues or bugs you encounter.


I'm really excited to welcome you all to Wikidata! I hope it will become a great help for Wikisource.


Cheers Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) via MediaWiki message delivery (mesaj) 21:07, 14 Ocak 2014 (UTC)

Request for comment on Commons: Should Wikimedia support MP4 video?

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I apologize for this message being only in English. Please translate it if needed to help your community.

The Wikimedia Foundation's multimedia team seeks community guidance on a proposal to support the MP4 video format. This digital video standard is used widely around the world to record, edit and watch videos on mobile phones, desktop computers and home video devices. It is also known as H.264/MPEG-4 or AVC.

Supporting the MP4 format would make it much easier for our users to view and contribute video on Wikipedia and Wikimedia projects -- and video files could be offered in dual formats on our sites, so we could continue to support current open formats (WebM and Ogg Theora).

However, MP4 is a patent-encumbered format, and using a proprietary format would be a departure from our current practice of only supporting open formats on our sites -- even though the licenses appear to have acceptable legal terms, with only a small fee required.

We would appreciate your guidance on whether or not to support MP4. Our Request for Comments presents views both in favor and against MP4 support, based on opinions we’ve heard in our discussions with community and team members.

Please join this RfC -- and share your advice.

All users are welcome to participate, whether you are active on Commons, Wikipedia, other Wikimedia project -- or any site that uses content from our free media repository.

You are also welcome to join tomorrow's Office hours chat on IRC, this Thursday, January 16, at 19:00 UTC, if you would like to discuss this project with our team and other community members.

We look forward to a constructive discussion with you, so we can make a more informed decision together on this important topic. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 06:47, 16 Ocak 2014 (UTC)

Access to data in Wikidata

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Hey :)

(Sorry for writing in English. I hope someone can translate this for me where necessary.)

Not long ago we enabled language links via Wikidata for Wikisource. This seems to have gone rather smoothly. Thanks to everyone who helped! But as you know this was only the start. What is actually more interesting is access to the data in Wikidata like the date of birth of an author or the year a book was published. We have planned this for February 25th (unless any issues arise). You will then be able to use the data in your articles. I hope this will open up a lot of new opportunities for you.

If you have any questions d:Wikidata:Wikisource is a good place to find help.

Cheers Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) 13:51, 27 Ocak 2014 (UTC)

İlaç prospektüsleri

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Sizce ilaç prospektüsleri VikiKaynak'a eklenmeli mi? Bu konuda Doruk'la fikir alış verişinde bulunuyoruz. Görüş belirtirseniz memnun oluruz. — Pınar [m] 09:19, 29 Ocak 2014 (UTC)


doruk'u yeniden viki projelerinde gördüğüme sevindim, hoş gelmiş.:) şu söylediği de ilgimi çekti: "her tarafı reklama kesmiş "ilaç" sitelerinden yılmış olarak, yalın ve her birinin içeriği tam bir P birikiminin burada derlenebileceği yönündeydi." (belki viki altyapısını kullanan bir alanda böyle bir derleme yapabilir, ne güzel olur.) ama pınar'ın şu cümlesi önemli: "Sonuçta yazarlarının kim olduğunu ve hangi kaynaklara/araştırmalara dayanarak oluşturulduğunu bilmediğimiz metinlerden söz ediyoruz." bu yüzden sıkıntılı görünüyor. --kibele 09:24, 29 Ocak 2014 (UTC)


Evet, doktor özletmişti kendini :) Yorum için teşekkürler kibele. Reklamsız ve bütün halinde bu bilgiyi sunmak elbette yararlı olabilir ama projenin kapsamının sınırlı olduğunu unutmamak lazım. Yoksa yarın biri gelir elektrikli süpürgesinin kullanma kılavuzunu, Scrabble oyununun kutudan çıkan kurallarını ekleyiverir. Hem şu da geldi aklıma. İlaçlar çeşitli ülkelerde farklı isimlerle piyasaya sürülebiliyor (örneğin "Lansoprazol" Türkiye'de "Lansor" adıyla satılıyor galiba) ve bu isimler genellikle tescilli marka oluyor. Lansor 30 mg Mikropellet Kapsül derken markanın reklamını da yapmış oluyoruz bir nevi. Aynı ilaç için farklı dillerde farklı isimlerle prospektüsler yayımlanabiliyor. Maksat insanları bilgilendirmekse, ansiklopedi maddesinde özelliklerinden, hangi hastalıklarda faydalı olabildiğinden, yan etkilerinden vs. güvenilir kaynaklara dayanarak söz edilebilir. Ambalaj, ruhsat bilgilerine gerek yok bence. — Pınar [m] 10:07, 29 Ocak 2014 (UTC)


Bu "reklam" konusu benim kafama da takıldı. Eğer aynı etken maddeyi kullanarak birden fazla firma piyasaya ilaç sürüyorsa ve bir "prospektüs derleyici" de bunlardan yalnızca birini seçip yayınlıyorsa, o zaman reklam olur ama lansoprazolün kullanıldığı birden fazla ilaç piyasada var: http://www.ilacabak.com/etkengoster.php?Id=A02BC03

skrabıl/elektrik süpürgesi benzetmesi iyiymiş, :-)... buna mukabil, ciddi onay ve ruhsatlandırma sürecinden geçerek basılan ve kullanıma sunulan, (bence) güvenilir birer kaynak metin oldukları şüphe götürmez prospektüslerin Vikikaynak'ta yer alabileceğini düşünüyorum. Vikipedi'deki ilaç maddelerinin yazılması sırasında kaynak gösterilmeleri hiç de uygunsuz kaçmaz. Misal, http://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lansoprazol maddesi neredeyse tamamen prospektüs bilgisi kullanılarak yazılmış ama kaynak filan da gösterilmemiş. Yazılanlar yanlış mı? Değil. Kaynak eksiğini gidereyim ama nereyi kaynak göstereyim; "reklama kesmiş" (:-)) ilaç sitelerinden birini mi? Temiz temiz Vikikaynak'ı göstermeyi tercih ederim. Elbette, yayın da bulunabilir ama telifsiz ise, güvenilir birer derleme belge olan prospektüslerden niye uzak duralım?

Reklam konusu cidden çok şüpheli. Wikipedia'da, etken maddeyi anlatan maddelerde müstahzar isimlerinin listelendiğine o kadar çok rastlanıyor ki. Öte yandan, meta olan her türlü ürünle (telefonlar, foto makinaları, arabalar, programlar vs. vs.) ilgili maddeyi reklam olarak değerlendirmek mümkündür.

Sonuçta, bence burada düğüm prospektüslerin telifinin ne olduğu konusunda. Eğer Vikikaynak'ta aranan şey, bir belgenin telifsiz olduğunun istisnasız belirtilmiş olması ise, ona diyecek bir şeyim yok.

Ben bu konuda çok da tutkulu değilim aslında. Elimde dijitize edilmiş bir şekilde Google Drive'da birikmiş prospektüsleri kendi ihtiyacım için kullanmaya devam edebilirim. :-)

İyi çalışmalar... --Doruk Salancı (mesaj) 10:38, 29 Ocak 2014 (UTC)


Lansoprazol maddesinin içeriğini örnek olarak vermemiştim ama bir prospektüs gibi yazılmaması gerekiyor. Tavsiyede bulunmuyoruz deyip şunu yapın, bunu yapmayın dersek çelişki olur ve sorumluluk reddi de kurtarmaz. Örneğin "hamile kadınlar kullanmamalıdır" yerine kaynak belirterek "hamile kadınlara zararlı etkisi olduğu tespit edilmiştir" denilebilir.

İngilizce Vikikaynak'ın en eski kullanıcılarından bürokrat Zhaladshar'a danıştım. O da telif ihlalinin muhtemel olduğunu söyledi.

Vikikaynak'ta adil kullanıma izin verilmiyor. Sadece serbest lisanslı, yazarı bilinen metinler eklenebiliyor ve herhangi bir metnin doğruluğunu kanıtlamak için orjinalinin taranmış görüntüsü ekleniyor. Bkz: en:Wikisource:What Wikisource includes, en:Wikisource:Copyright policy, en:Wikisource:For Wikipedians.

Konunun üzerine gitmemin nedeni, bu soruları şimdi sormazsak ileride onlarca sayfa silinirse katkıda bulunanların vaktine ve emeğine yazık olur (buradaki gibi). — Pınar [m] 08:42, 30 Ocak 2014 (UTC)

Çeviriler

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Aramızda başka dillerdeki eserlerden çeviri yapanlar için bir not düşmek istiyorum. Vikikaynak'ta çevirinin yer alması için orijinal eserin kamu malı veya "özgür içerik" ("free content") tanımına uygun bir lisansla yayınlanmış olması gerekiyor. — Pınar [m] 10:15, 4 Şubat 2014 (UTC)

Universal Language Selector will be enabled by default again on this wiki by 21 February 2014

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On January 21 2014 the MediaWiki extension Universal Language Selector (ULS) was disabled on this wiki. A new preference was added for logged-in users to turn on ULS. This was done to prevent slow loading of pages due to ULS webfonts, a behaviour that had been observed by the Wikimedia Technical Operations team on some wikis.

We are now ready to enable ULS again. The temporary preference to enable ULS will be removed. A new checkbox has been added to the Language Panel to enable/disable font delivery. This will be unchecked by default for this wiki, but can be selected at any time by the users to enable webfonts. This is an interim solution while we improve the feature of webfonts delivery.

You can read the announcement and the development plan for more information. Apologies for writing this message only in English. Thank you. Runa

Amendment to the Terms of Use

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You can now access the data on Wikidata

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Hey folks,

We have just enabled data access to Wikidata for Wikisource (except old-wikisource). This means you can now access data like the date of birth of an author or the ISBN of a book. You can do this in two ways. The first one is a parser function. You can use it like {{#property:capital}} or {{#property:P36}}. The second one is Lua. The documentation for that is at mw:Extension:WikibaseClient/Lua

If you have any questions you will find help at d:Wikidata:Wikisource and its talk page.

I hope you'll use this to do some kick-ass things on Wikisource ;-)


Cheers Lydia Pintscher 19:54, 25 Şubat 2014 (UTC)

Call for project ideas: funding is available for community experiments

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I apologize if this message is not in your language. Please help translate it.

Do you have an idea for a project that could improve your community? Individual Engagement Grants from the Wikimedia Foundation help support individuals and small teams to organize experiments for 6 months. You can get funding to try out your idea for online community organizing, outreach, tool-building, or research to help make Vikikaynak better. In March, we’re looking for new project proposals.

Examples of past Individual Engagement Grant projects:

Proposals are due by 31 March 2014. There are a number of ways to get involved!

Hope to have your participation,

--Siko Bouterse, Head of Individual Engagement Grants, Wikimedia Foundation 19:44, 28 Şubat 2014 (UTC)

Proposed optional changes to Terms of Use amendment

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Hello all, in response to some community comments in the discussion on the amendment to the Terms of Use on undisclosed paid editing, we have prepared two optional changes. Please read about these optional changes on Meta wiki and share your comments. If you can (and this is a non english project), please translate this announcement. Thanks! Slaporte (WMF) 21:56, 13 Mart 2014 (UTC)

Changes to the default site typography coming soon

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This week, the typography on Wikimedia sites will be updated for all readers and editors who use the default "Vector" skin. This change will involve new serif fonts for some headings, small tweaks to body content fonts, text size, text color, and spacing between elements. The schedule is:

  • April 1st: non-Wikipedia projects will see this change live
  • April 3rd: Wikipedias will see this change live

This change is very similar to the "Typography Update" Beta Feature that has been available on Wikimedia projects since November 2013. After several rounds of testing and with feedback from the community, this Beta Feature will be disabled and successful aspects enabled in the default site appearance. Users who are logged in may still choose to use another skin, or alter their personal CSS, if they prefer a different appearance. Local common CSS styles will also apply as normal, for issues with local styles and scripts that impact all users.

For more information:

-- Steven Walling (Product Manager) on behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation's User Experience Design team

Vikimedya Bülteni, Mart 2014

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Mart 2014 Wikimedia Vakfı ve Wikimedia mühendislik raporları ile diğer önemli Wikimedia hareketi etkinliklerinden oluşan bülten.
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Wikisource meetup at Wikimania 2014

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Wikimania 2014 will be held in London this August and it will be a great opportunity to discuss how to use the recently created Wikisource Community User Group to coordinate and to better promote Wikisource. We would like to invite the participants of each Wikisource language community to showcase the projects has been working in the past year and, of course, learn from each other experiences. See you there? Sign up in the meeting page.
The preceding MassMessage was sent by Micru on behalf of the Wikisource Community User Group.--06:59, 13 Mayıs 2014 (UTC)

Using only UploadWizard for uploads

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Wikimedia Commons logo

Hello! It was noted that on this wiki you have less than 10 local files. Presumably, you therefore don't have interest nor energies to have hundreds templates with the now required HTML, even less a local EDP. However, this means that users here will experience a mostly broken and/or illegal uploading. I propose to

so that you can avoid local maintenance and all users can have a functioning, easy upload interface in their own language. All registered users can upload on Commons and existing files will not be affected.

I'll get this done in one week from now.

  1. If you disagree with the proposal, just remove your wiki from the list.
  2. To make the UploadWizard even better, please tell your experience and ideas on commons:Commons:Upload Wizard feedback.

Nemo 20:38, 19 Mayıs 2014 (UTC)

Media Viewer

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Greetings, my apologies for writing in English.

I wanted to let you know that Media Viewer will be released to this wiki in the coming weeks. Media Viewer allows readers of Wikimedia projects to have an enhanced view of files without having to visit the file page, but with more detail than a thumbnail. You can try Media Viewer out now by turning it on in your Beta Features. If you do not enjoy Media Viewer or if it interferes with your work after it is turned on you will be able to disable Media Viewer as well in your preferences. I invite you to share what you think about Media Viewer and how it can be made better in the future.

Thank you for your time. - Keegan (WMF) 21:29, 23 Mayıs 2014 (UTC)

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Media Viewer is now live on this wiki

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Media Viewer lets you see images in larger size

Greetings— and sorry for writing in English, please translate if it will help your community,

The Wikimedia Foundation's Multimedia team is happy to announce that Media Viewer was just released on this site today.

Media Viewer displays images in larger size when you click on their thumbnails, to provide a better viewing experience. Users can now view images faster and more clearly, without having to jump to separate pages — and its user interface is more intuitive, offering easy access to full-resolution images and information, with links to the file repository for editing. The tool has been tested extensively across all Wikimedia wikis over the past six months as a Beta Feature and has been released to the largest Wikipedias, all language Wikisources, and the English Wikivoyage already.

If you do not like this feature, you can easily turn it off by clicking on "Disable Media Viewer" at the bottom of the screen, pulling up the information panel (or in your your preferences) whether you have an account or not. Learn more in this Media Viewer Help page.

Please let us know if you have any questions or comments about Media Viewer. You are invited to share your feedback in this discussion on MediaWiki.org in any language, to help improve this feature. You are also welcome to take this quick survey in English, en français, o español.

We hope you enjoy Media Viewer. Many thanks to all the community members who helped make it possible. - Fabrice Florin (WMF) (talk) 21:54, 19 Haziran 2014 (UTC)

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IMPORTANT: Admin activity review

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Hello. A new policy regarding the removal of "advanced rights" (administrator, bureaucrat, etc) was recently adopted by global community consensus (your community received a notice about the discussion). According to this policy, the stewards are reviewing administrators' activity on smaller wikis. To the best of our knowledge, your wiki does not have a formal process for removing "advanced rights" from inactive accounts. This means that the stewards will take care of this according to the new admin activity review here.

We have determined that the following users meet the inactivity criteria (no edits and no log actions for more than 2 years):

  1. Absar (administrator)
  2. Nosferatü (administrator)
  3. Ugur Basak (administrator)

These users will receive a notification soon, asking them to start a community discussion if they want to retain some or all of their rights. If the users do not respond, then their advanced rights will be removed by the stewards.

However, if you as a community would like to create your own activity review process superseding the global one, want to make another decision about these inactive rights holders, or already have a policy that we missed, then please notify the stewards on Meta-Wiki so that we know not to proceed with the rights review on your wiki. Thanks, Rschen7754 06:32, 11 Temmuz 2014 (UTC)

türkçesi için şuradan yararlanılabilinir. --kibele 10:03, 11 Temmuz 2014 (UTC)

Letter petitioning WMF to reverse recent decisions

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The Wikimedia Foundation recently created a new feature, "superprotect" status. The purpose is to prevent pages from being edited by elected administrators -- but permitting WMF staff to edit them. It has been put to use in only one case: to protect the deployment of the Media Viewer software on German Wikipedia, in defiance of a clear decision of that community to disable the feature by default, unless users decide to enable it.

If you oppose these actions, please add your name to this letter. If you know non-Wikimedians who support our vision for the free sharing of knowledge, and would like to add their names to the list, please ask them to sign an identical version of the letter on change.org.

-- JurgenNL (talk) 17:35, 21 Ağustos 2014 (UTC)

Process ideas for software development

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’’My apologies for writing in English.’’

Hello,

I am notifying you that a brainstorming session has been started on Meta to help the Wikimedia Foundation increase and better affect community participation in software development across all wiki projects. Basically, how can you be more involved in helping to create features on Wikimedia projects? We are inviting all interested users to voice their ideas on how communities can be more involved and informed in the product development process at the Wikimedia Foundation. It would be very appreciated if you could translate this message to help inform your local communities as well.

I and the rest of my team welcome you to participate. We hope to see you on Meta.

Kind regards, -- Rdicerb (WMF) talk 22:15, 21 Ağustos 2014 (UTC)

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Grants to improve your project

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Apologies for English. Please help translate this message.

Greetings! The Individual Engagement Grants program is accepting proposals for funding new experiments from September 1st to 30th. Your idea could improve Wikimedia projects with a new tool or gadget, a better process to support community-building on your wiki, research on an important issue, or something else we haven't thought of yet. Whether you need $200 or $30,000 USD, Individual Engagement Grants can cover your own project development time in addition to hiring others to help you.

Meta RfCs on two new global groups

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Hello all,

There are currently requests for comment open on meta to create two new global groups. The first is a group for members of the OTRS permissions queue, which would grant them autopatrolled rights on all wikis except those who opt-out. That proposal can be found at m:Requests for comment/Creation of a global OTRS-permissions user group. The second is a group for Wikimedia Commons admins and OTRS agents to view deleted file pages through the 'viewdeletedfile' right on all wikis except those who opt-out. The second proposal can be found at m:Requests for comment/Global file deletion review.

We would like to hear what you think on both proposals. Both are in English; if you wanted to translate them into your native language that would also be appreciated.

It is possible for individual projects to opt-out, so that users in those groups do not have any additional rights on those projects. To do this please start a local discussion, and if there is consensus you can request to opt-out of either or both at m:Stewards' noticeboard.

Thanks and regards, Ajraddatz (talk) 18:05, 26 Ekim 2014 (UTC)

Global AbuseFilter

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Hello,

AbuseFilter is a MediaWiki extension used to detect likely abusive behavior patterns, like pattern vandalism and spam. In 2013, Global AbuseFilters were enabled on a limited set of wikis including Meta-Wiki, MediaWiki.org, Wikispecies and (in early 2014) all the "small wikis". Recently, global abuse filters were enabled on "medium sized wikis" as well. These filters are currently managed by stewards on Meta-Wiki and have shown to be very effective in preventing mass spam attacks across Wikimedia projects. However, there is currently no policy on how the global AbuseFilters will be managed although there are proposals. There is an ongoing request for comment on policy governing the use of the global AbuseFilters. In the meantime, specific wikis can opt out of using the global AbuseFilter. These wikis can simply add a request to this list on Meta-Wiki. More details can be found on this page at Meta-Wiki. If you have any questions, feel free to ask on m:Talk:Global AbuseFilter.

Thanks,

PiRSquared17, Glaisher

— 17:34, 14 Kasım 2014 (UTC)